keeping both nasal sensors on

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keeping both nasal sensors on

Postby dreamweaver333 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:57 am

i have used tape-repositioning-everything. is there something that holds both PTAF & thermistor in place other than tape?
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Re: keeping both nasal sensors on

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Re: keeping both nasal sensors on

Postby somnonaut » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:58 pm

This is not "tape" per se but double sided styrofoam. I use to affix the cannula on top of the Dymedix or Nellcor Temp flow sensors which are flat. I only use disposable Temp flow sensors, so this works all together and can be thrown out in AM.
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Re: keeping both nasal sensors on

Postby respbarb » Tue Mar 17, 2015 10:43 pm

That's why we switched to this. Works great.
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Re: keeping both nasal sensors on

Postby somnonaut » Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:36 am

Barb,
I always wondered that if the cannula is the biggest issue for patients to keep on, then them moving/removing the cannula in this setup would ablate both signals. Do you find that? And does the cannula portion come in dual lumen for PFLOW and ETCO2?
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Re: keeping both nasal sensors on

Postby respbarb » Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:15 pm

Yes it comes in dual lumen and nasal/oral also. We use it for everyone ; children to adult. The have peds and adult sizes.
People rarely take it off.
If they do pull it off, yes you lose both signals as they are tied together, but this will happen regardless of what you use if you tape it together. It's less bulky.
LETS FACE IT. If patients pull anything out of their nose, they will pull everything out of their nose!
When you lose the pressure transducer signal due to open mouth when using the nasal cannula only, you do not lose the therm channel. Now- if I can only get my techs to use the nasal/oral from the get go that little problem wouldn't exist :roll:
We've been using them for years and will not change back. Totally worth it. Plus you only have to replace part of the device. Much cheaper to use overall.
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Re: keeping both nasal sensors on

Postby somnonaut » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:42 am

"If patients pull anything out of their nose, they will pull everything out of their nose"
Not in our setup. They pull off the most annoying thing and that is the cannula. The Temp Flow is tape down so it stays in place. And ALL are disposable. Nothing is reused. So there is that also.
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Re: keeping both nasal sensors on

Postby respbarb » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:09 pm

That because it doesn't sit in the nares. They still pull everything out of their nose. You only have 1 thing in their nose, you only lose 1 channel and that's good.
We like the Thermisense and rarely have problems. Like disposables a lot, too. Just not an issue for us.
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